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10 Year Anniversary Tournament Set (redirected from 10 Year Anniversary Tournament Set Breakdown)

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The 10YA Tournament Set is a set of 24 balanced decks for tournament and casual play.  It is not a stand-alone set but is rather a set of modifications to 8 of the 12 original Hasbro decks, along with 2 of the 12, 10YA Custom Set decks to create a balanced set of 24 decks.  This set is ideal for use in League of Legends format tournaments where all decks need to be roughly equal in overall power level, but each can have relative strengths and weaknesses that interact with enemies and allies.  This format has been successfully used at GenCon, at Mike Maloney's Dencon tournaments, and some online Vassal tournaments.  In order to meet the intention that all decks win roughly 50% of the time, some of the original decks and custom decks were modified and all 24 decks were tested for balance.  If you're used to the original Epic Duels decks, there are fairly substantial changes to Obi-Wan, Palpatine, Jango and Vader, and noticeable changes to Han, Luke, Boba and Maul (all changes listed below).  All of these decks were deemed either too strong or too weak for League of Legends tournaments and were modified to bring them into the same power level as Anakin, Dooku, Mace and Yoda.

 

10YA Tournament Set Downloads

 

PDF for Originals  10YA Tweaks to Originals 

PDF for Originals to print modified cards for 8 of the original decks: 

Han, Luke, Obi-Wan, Boba, Jango, Maul, Palpatine, and Vader.

PDF for Customs  10YA Tweaks to 10YA Customs 

PDF for Customs to print modified cards and battle card for 2 of the 10YA Custom Decks:

Luminara and Tarkin. 

Complete Text Listing  10YA Tournament Set Text  Word Document with text listings of all 24 decks.  Modifications also listed below.
Rules  ED Tournament Rules  Word Document rules for a League of Legends Tournament, written by Mike Maloney. 
Vassal  10YA Tournament Extension  Vassal Extension, to go along with the 10YA Custom Set Extension (back button). 

 

For Print:     You need extra sets or at least extra cards of original decks to be modified and the 12-deck 10YA Custom Set.

For Vassal:  You need the original SWED3-2 module plus the 10YA Custom Set extension in addition to the 10YA Tournament Extension.

 

 

10YA Tournament Set Complete 24-Deck Listing

 

Anakin Solo & Padme Amidala (Original no changes)           Boba Fett & Greedo (Modified Original)

Han Solo & Chewbacca (Modified Original)                         Count Dooku & 2 Super Battle Droids (Original no changes)

Luke Skywalker & Leia Organa (Modified Original)               Darth Maul & 2 Battle Droids (Modified Original)

Mace Windu & 2 Clone Troopers (Original no changes)       Darth Vader & 2 Stormtroopers (Modified Original)

Obi-WAn Kenobi & 2 Clone Trooper (Modified Original)      Emperor Palpatine & 2 Royal Guards (Modified Original)

Yoda & 2 Clone Troopers (Original no changes)                  Jango Fett & Zam Wessel (Modified Original)

 

Aayla Secura & 2 Clone Troopers (Custom no changes)        Asajj Ventress & 2 Battle Droids (Custom no changes)

Ahsoka Tano & Captain Rex (Custom no changes)                Cad Bane & 2 Assassin Droids (Custom no changes)

Ki-Adi-Mundi & 2 Clone Troopers (Custom no changes)       Grand Moff Tarkin & 2 Elite Stormtroopers (Modified Custom)

Lando Calrissian & 2 Bespin Guards (Custom no changes)    Grievous & 2 Magnaguards (Custom no changes)

Luminara Unduli & Barriss Offee (Modified Custom)             Jabba the Hutt & 2 Gamorrean Guards (Custom no changes)

Qui-Gon Jinn & Jar-Jar (Custom no changes)                        Nute Gunray & 2 Droidekas (Custom no changes)

 

 

10YA Tournament Modifications to Original Hasbro Decks

 

Han Solo and Chewbacca

- Change 2x HEROIC RETREAT to A6 instead of A5
- Change 2x NEVER TELL ME THE ODDS to do 3 damage instead of 2

Luke Skywalker and Princess Leia
- Change 2x JUSTICE to A6 instead of A4
- Change 2x LUKE’S IN TROUBLE to "Leia moves adjacent to Luke, heals Luke 4, or if Luke destroyed heal Leia 4"

 

Obi-Wan Kenobi and Clone Troopers

- Change 2x FORCE CONTROL to "A6, move Obi-Wan and attacked character 3 spaces"
- Change 3x JEDI ATTACK to A5 instead of A6
- Replace 1x JEDI BLOCK with 1x FORCE QUICKNESS

 

Boba Fett and Greedo

-Change 2x SUDDEN ARRIVAL to "Move Greedo adjacent to any character. Then Greedo

does 1 damage to all characters he can attack. Playing this card does not count as an action."

 

Darth Maul and Battle Droids

- Change 3x ATHLETIC SURGE to A6 instead of A8

Darth Vader and Stormtroopers
- Change 2x DARK SIDE DRAIN to A5 instead of A3
- Change 1x ALL TOO EASY to A7* instead of A3*

Emperor Palpatine and Royal Guard
- Replace 1x ROYAL COMMAND with 1x YOU WILL DIE
- Change 2x YOU WILL DIE to "Player chooses and discards a card for each 2 cards in his hand”

 

Jango Fett and Zam Wesell
- Replace 1x FLAMETHROWER with 1x MISSILE LAUNCH
- Change 3x SNIPER SHOT to "A3*, *if this attack is not completely blocked, then A6"

 

10YA Tournament Original Hasbro Decks with No Changes

 

Anakin Skywalker and Padme Amidala

-No changes

 

Mace Windu and Clone Troopers

-No changes

 

Yoda and Clone Troopers

-No changes

 

Count Dooku and Super Battle Droids

-No changes

 

10YA Tournament Custom Decks with Modifications

 

Luminara Unduli and Barriss Offee

- Change 2x FORCE BUBBLE to do a maximum of 2 damage to any one character
- Change 1x FORCE CONTROL to A6 instead of A7

 

Grand Moff Tarkin and Elite Stormtroopers

Change 2x Stormtroopers with 4 HP each to 2x Elite Stormtroopers with 5 HP each.

Change Minor Basic deck from Weak to Strong+, and 8 of Tarkin's 9 talent cards that

mentioned "allied stormtroopers" now only reference "Elite Stormtroopers" except for

OUR MOMENT OF TRIUMPH, which still refers to "allied" and means all, including Elites.

 

2x Elite Stormtroopers
5 HP each
1x A5D1
1x A4D1
2x A3D1
1x A3D2
2x A2D3
2x A1D4

 

10YA Tournament Custom Decks with No Changes

Aayla Secura and Clone Troopers

-No changes

 

Ahsoka Tano and Captain Rex

-No changes

 

Ki-Adi-Mundi and Clone Troopers

-No changes

 

Lando Calrissian and Bespin Guards

-No changes

 

Qui-Gon Jinn and Jar Jar Binks

-No changes

 

Asajj Ventress and Battle Droids

-No changes

 

Cad Bane and Assassin Droids

-No changes

 

General Grievous and Magnaguards

-No changes

 

Jabba the Hut and Gamorean Guards

-No changes

 

Nute Gunray and Droidekas

-No changes

 

Notes:

 

- According to EDOL Statistics, in 1v1 duels, the best deck (Obi-Wan Kenbobi) wins about 78% of the time, whereas the weakest deck (Jango Fett) wins about 29% of the time, pretty far from the ideal 50% for Tournament decks in a 2v2 format, where Obi and Jango would probably have similar winning percentages.  Therefore, modifications had to be made.

- As opposed to trying to "fix" everything wrong with the game, the goal was to balance the game by making as few modifications to as few decks and as few cards as necessary while keeping the feel of the modified decks as close to their originals as possible.  On a few occasions, we replaced a card outright with another card from the same deck.

- We started with a group of commonly used tweaks, debated, and tested the selected tweaks repeatedly for balance along with other proposed ideas.

Obi-Wan, Palpatine and Darth Maul, listed in descending order of strength, were considered too strong, Obi-Wan almost ridiculously so.

- Jango, Vader, Luke, Han and Boba, listed in ascending order of strength, were considered too weak.

- From the 10YA Custom Set, Luminara was considered too strong and Tarkin was considered too weak.

- Alternatives to Palpatine's YOU WILL DIE were considered but we ultimately wanted to get away from the all-or-nothing nature of it.

- Tweaks to Jango's FLAMETHROWER were considered but it was ultimately tossed in favor of a second MISSILE LAUNCH, a common tweak.

- Changes to Chewbacca's IT'S NOT WISE, specifically increasing the movement to 6, were tested but deemed unnecessary.

- Changes to Yoda were tested but deemed unnecessary.

 

If you playtest this complete set and have any feedback about the tweaks, please leave a comment below!

 

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Comments (5)

umondy said

at 6:53 am on May 29, 2017

Love this overview etc. Would have loved to have something like this when I started printing my expansions. Even though I fixed my original 12 a little different, I think that is just a matter of taste.

Roman F said

at 3:09 pm on May 30, 2017

Yeah it took us 10 years to publish this, by then I think every group had already tweaked the originals a little differently. For example, my own group uses an entirely different set than these, but our purposes are entirely different. This set of tweaks has 2 specific purposes:

1. Make all 12 decks roughly equal. Changes are not made for any other purpose, e.g. to make Vader more fun or because “GIVE ORDERS” really would feel better with “draw a card” added to it. Vader is tweaked to be more powerful, Obi-Wan to be less. Dooku doesn’t need tweaks to be balanced, so he doesn’t get them.

2. Change as little as possible. We tried to take “taste” out of it by mostly adjusting values or replacing one card in a deck with another card from the same deck (e.g. replace FLAMETHROWER with a second MISSILE LAUNCH). I mean, you could make Jango more balanced by replacing one of Zam’s SNIPER SHOT cards with a powerful KOHOUN INFESTATION card – but that changes that deck in ways this set of tweaks didn’t want to. That gets into taste, which we didn't want to do.

charris said

at 3:28 pm on Nov 16, 2017

Made all the tweaks except for Palpatine. I really don't think he is too strong. You Will Die is ridiculous and the Force Lightnings are great but outside of that, I really don't think he is too strong as is. Does everyone else really think he is too strong? Would take Darth Maul and some others over him any day

Roman F said

at 10:32 am on Nov 17, 2017

Hi charris, thanks for posting. Here's what I can tell you: In 172 1v1 duels among the old EDOL community, Palpatine won 64.9% of his matches, second only to Obi-Wan's 78.6% and just ahead of Maul's 63.5%. So while I can't tell you what "too strong" is, he is definitely much stronger than average. For a set where all the decks are to be roughly equal in power, he definitely needs to be made less powerful. Also, while our group does not, some find YWD to be a NPE -- Negative Play Experience. They just don't like the way it impacts the game. Personally, I also think Emperor is even better in 2v2 than he is in 1v1, whereas Maul, IMO, takes a hit in 2v2 where his lack of defense becomes a bigger liability, though I know groups who disagree with me. What we do know is that 1v1 results for both Emperor and Maul show both to be much better than average and therefore, in need of tweaks for this set. If you want to leave him as is, go ahead, but over time, I think you'll find him to be stronger than average.

umondy said

at 2:18 am on Nov 22, 2017

Hi charris, I and my group we actually love Palpi the way he is. I don't think he is TOO strong, he is strong as he should be in my opinion and I don't beleive he is a NPE. I think his cards make it very intriguing to play against him as you always have to be aware not to collect to many cards and maybe play a little more aggrsssive as you normally would. One thing I may have to add, our house rules only allow to cause direct damage if the targeted character is within line of sight.

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